drlobojo is not a doctor, nor is he a wolf, although he has been called a cur on occasion, nor is he a jo which is Scottish for sweetheart having never been called that to his recollection. He is a pre-Atomic (born before the first bomb blast in New Mexico), a boy off of the Red River of Oklahoma, son of a share cropper, and poor white trash at that.
Thursday, May 28, 2015
Labor Is Not The Same As Work Nor Wealth The Same As Capital
Once again I tread in waters I’m not sure of. I am not a public school teacher, administrator, or board member. I know practically nothing about public schools. There, that is my disclaimer.
I do know this. High School graduates certified to be prepared to do college level work aren’t. That’s right. I am saying that a great many high school students who have been certified by those schools as being ready for college are not prepared to read or write at the college level nor are they able to do college level math.
They can pass standardized high school level tests. This is good because it appears this is one of the determining factors for funding and teacher raises/job security. However one cannot say that the student is good at passing all test because they cannot score well enough on college level assessment exams to get into college level work.
I am willing to go along with the fact that almost all schools now have to teach to some standardized exam. But are we really willing to blame standardized tests for all of our woes? I watched my own child progress through the grades and I watch kids now. These kids are in band, honor societies, sports, choir, and any number of extracurricular activities. If they have enough time they are in school.
It is finals week for our local school system. The kids only have to attend about a half a day. Most of them seem to be "exempt" from their final exams. Which seems to have more to do with attendance than performance. And attending half a day is really false, they need to be at school by 10:00 and stay for 15 minutes so the school can count them for funding. A whole week of school wasted in my opinion.
I don’t understand the modern education system. It is nothing like when we went to school. However it is considered an advancement. Yet we came out of high school ready to go to college or to work, provided the military didn’t grab us first. If we went to college and didn’t make the grade we were booted and had to go to work, if the military didn’t grab us first. There was no remedial system that we could partake of for a couple of years before starting college level work.
Teaching to the test is one more government initiative that is not working. Yet we will continue to do it because the handful of people who do vote are voting for representation that approves of this kind of education.
So you just continue to stay home and watch Dancing With the Stars or The Bachelor and don’t bother to read op ed pieces, watch news shows, go listen to the folks running for office or God forbid, head to the ballot box. Your vote doesn’t matter anyway.
Don FoardIt's not the whole story, but in 1980 or thereabouts Mark White appointed Ross Perot, wingnut, to revamp public education in Texas. It wasn't that his ideas were good or bad so much as it was the beginning of politicians insinuating themselves more an...See More
Jack E. Wardlow IIIBit by golly they do know their way around a cellphone. Kids today are sharp smart they need teachers who are free to teach and courses that challenge them. Good points Don thank you.
Joe HagyWork? Go to work? Work is something you and I did, rather had to do. There isn't enough work to go around and there is not enough pay for that which is still there. Human Being are being replaced in the workforce every single day. Skill sets are dis...See More
Jack E. Wardlow IIIWell Joe your argument may make my argument valid. When the crash comes, when technology no longer functions, when the best way to survive is to grow one's own food and construct one's own shelter and clothing, this world will need rebuilt. That will require work. There was a time when we moved across this globe without fossil fuels. We will have to relearn how to do that. If there are any of us left.
Joe Hagy"When the crash comes, when technology no longer functions,..." When the crash comes... I'll be dead within a week anyway....but you are ignoring "technologies" ability to repair itself, which grows and interconnects day by day. If you take a Survivali...See More
Jack E. Wardlow IIIWorst case scenario, these may be the skills of the future. If the world ends as some see it we will lose power plants, generating ability, transmission ability, etc.. No power, technology suffers a huge set back. Dog jerky and pemmican is going to ...See More
Joe HagyI'm not advocating to stop teaching....but how about the Liberal Arts? Mr USAO graduate, who went to the only public totally Liberal Arts institution in the USA. How about the ability to do things for the species when "grunt labor" or even repetitive assembling is no longer need? Is wealth in Labor or is wealth in Capital or is that a total bullshit dichotomy?
Jack E. Wardlow IIII maintain that a liberal arts education, or a good college education in general, teaches one how to reason, how to think one's way through a problem. I see your point, I think. Maybe vocation agriculture or basic gardening and dog jerking should be ...See More
Jack E. Wardlow IIIAnd it is wealth in labor I think. Labor, the ability to do manual labor, worthwhile food producing labor, will save mankind. Wealth in capital means nothing in the world you and I are discussing here.
Joe HagyI've been a member of SPT for more than a decade now, and I've made or attempted to make a few of the "primitive" construction they they teach about. I'm betting on no crunch, because the other bet is unwinnable. http://www.primitive.org/about-the-spt/
Jack E. Wardlow IIIokay, yes, I see that. But life is a learning process, if we don't learn, we don't survive. (Somehow I feel as if I'm making your point for you). Knowledge of survival skills, the ability to learn survival skills in a post climatic catastrophe is fi...See More
Joe HagyThose boots on the ground do not have to have human feet in them any more. It could easily be a robot responding to a human in a virtual reality set up in Nevada somewhere rather than the human being there on the battle field and the human is responding to probability algorithms fed to them by computers. See DARPA http://www.darpa.mil/default.aspx